Darth Maul vs Darth Vader Thread starter Sanguíne Symphony; Start ... TCW or Clone Maul was able to nearly beat ANH Vader whose stronger then RoTS Anakin (pre-Mustafar) ... No version of Obi-Wan is stronger then Maul at his best or Dooku, so I'm not really seeing the need for your issue here.. TJTheDuelist Member. He was influential in turning several of Luke’s apprentices to the Dark Side before having his spirit banished off the planet. After his passing, he was buried in the Valley of the Dark Lords on Korriban where his force ghost lived on, trapped within the tomb. Lord Vitiate was so powerful, it’s recorded he consumed the force energies of all living beings from several planets during his reign as Emperor. His fighting skills were above average but nothing to write home about. Defeated and killed Kirak Infil’a and Eeth Koth. Darth Sidious chose Anakin for these reasons, knowing Vader would become a powerful tool in his Empire to come. I wasn't asking you, lol. It would be his teachings which would eventually influence Darth Plagueis and later Darth Sidious and Darth Vader. A double bladed lightsaber, cool robot legs, and no hatred for sand are all reasons why Maul is the far better and stronger Sith than Darth Vader. It should be noted, however, his teachings as a Sith would get passed down for many years to come. Taking strength from the teachings of Darth Revan, Darth Bane wiped out the Brotherhood of Darkness about a thousand years before the events of The Phantom Menace. Use a Facebook account to add a comment, subject to Facebook's. Unable to finish the ritual, his spirit remained trapped on Yavin 4 for several thousand years. Afraid of losing her life due to her own mortality, Abeloth drank from the Font of Power. Since they killed off Darth Maul before Vader existed, the point is moot. He defeated the grand inquisitor with ease. Qui-Gon Jinn was a powerful Jedi, spiritually. Just by feats, Vader's force capabilities are far greater post-transformation than as Anakin. darth maul was bread to be a sith from palpatine ever since he was a little kid, all the black marks on his face are all sith tatoos. There’s also been many who have claimed to be more powerful than Vader, who in reality, aren’t. Darth Maul was cool, if only they explained him in the least bit other then "he is skilled". Maul was defeated by Obi-Wan Kenobi twice and lost a lightsaber battle against Darth Sidious too (with Savage Opress fighting by his side). Darth Vader defeated Obi-Wan in A New Hope, but it’s because Kenobi let him. ... 3:47 pm. At 5/28/05 11:44 PM, mighty_potato wrote: Darth Maul was not a Sith Lord like Vader was. Ultimately, Vader would have likely won the battle, much like Sidious did on Coruscant. The Great Big No. Boba Fett Vs. Darth Vader At its absolute best, the discussion of Boba Fett versus Darth Vader is not even a Star Wars discussion. Yoda is a skilled fighter, as seen during his battle with Darth Sidious in Revenge of the Sith. He was still the apprentice of Darth Sidious. Do not underestimate the power of Obi-Wan Kenobi, for he was likely as strong, if not stronger, than Mace Windu.  He returned more than 30 years later in The Rise of Skywalker , having managed to cheat death through powerful mastery of the dark side of the Force. He battled briefly with Qui-Gon Jinn, the Queen’s Jedi escort, but could not reach his target.Later, Maul waited for Amidala on Naboo, where he dueled with Qui-Gon and his apprentice, Obi-Wan Kenobi. Huw Fullerton, RadioTimes.com’s sci-fi and fantasy editor, said: "Never underestimate the power of the Dark Side. Because we lack any further information on Snoke, his powers as shown in Canon fall short of Darth Vader’s ultimate strength. Instead, it goes to show how truly vast the Star Wars Universe really is. Without Qui-Gon Jinn, Luke may have never been able to make the final shot to destroy the Death Star in A New Hope. Darth Vader commissioned several clones of his old apprentice Galen Marek, of which they were all known by the name Starkiller (subject 1138). He fought and survived the Battle of Geonosis, sadly to later be taken out during Order 66. so who is the better sith?? Vader is much stronger in the force, but not as skilled with the lightsaber as when he was totally human. Like Darth Sidious, Marka Ragnos was a superb manipulator and tactician. He could move his consciousness from one vessel (body) to another, making him virtually indestructible. In deceiving the Sith survivors of the Hyperspace War in Legends, Sith Lord Vitiate took them all out in one shot and became immortal. Darth Vader is one of the strongest characters in the Star Wars universe, but there are people bigger and badder. His lightsaber skills were top-notch, but he lacked the mentality to become a true Sith Lord. Lv 7. Snoke was powerful, but fans were never shown how strong he actually was. Darth Tyranus, Count Dooku, never stood a chance against Anakin nor what he would become. Things didn’t go as planned, and The Father was forced to sacrifice himself to maintain a temporary balance in the galaxy. Vader killed Darth Maul. By Matthew Loffhagen Jul 26, 2017. Therefore, Darth Sidious was able to use Count Dooku as a pawn. A Revan who was both Sith and Jedi, yet never both at the same time, is a Revan who never found his true power and strength. Darth Maul longed for revenge against the Jedi. Darth Maul personally said that he would be not match for Vader. With our combined strength, we can end this destructive conflict and bring order to the galaxy.” — Darth Vader in Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back. Despite his reign of terror, Darth Nihilus falls just short in strength and power when compared to Darth Vader. However, the experience certainly pushed him in that direction, making it easier for Darth Sidious to finish the job and turn Anakin into Darth Vader. That is, according to Star Wars Canon. Initiating the Rule of Two, Darth Bane would go down in history as one of the strongest Sith Lord leaders. Before you get those laser-swords twisted up, let it be noted it pains me to put Ahsoka in this category. but, darth vader is a very smart person and found and killed a lot of jedi in between the 3rd and 4th movies, which led to making the empire more powerful. However, the Sith drew upon the hatred that made him strong, and he managed to survive. Even if Kylo was able to focus his rage and immaturity, he’d still have a long path ahead to match Vader’s power. in your opinion who is the better sith? 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